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Post by kilisa09 on Feb 26, 2006 19:36:27 GMT -5
Eh. It's not Cary, I misspelled it. It's Cory and Ben. Benjamin's my baby brother, and Cory is my younger sister who's in heaven right now. *is sad* Abortion is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!! If you didn't want a baby in the first place, then you shouldn't've gotten it. -_-0
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Post by Ravenmaster on Feb 26, 2006 19:49:10 GMT -5
heh...happy thoughts about homestar...
Renalds: I'm gonna go home and get teen pregnancy
*GASP!*
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Post by Whyte Phoenix on Feb 26, 2006 20:19:10 GMT -5
I'm sorry to hear about Cory, Kilisa...
I don't think abortion is /all/ bad. It depends on the situation. If you get pregnant because you didn't use your 'safety devices' during you-know-what, then fine, you deserve it.
...But I mean, what if they (girl/woman/etc) get raped by someone and get pregnant ? Who in the world wants an unwanted baby ? The parent probably isn't READY for the child, finacially and mentally, that's why they wouldn't want him/her in the first place. Both parent and child would probably suffer.
And as for stem cells and cloning people... I can totally see scientists pulling an Island, like Raptor said. Humans are screwy like that.
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Post by Ravenmaster on Feb 26, 2006 20:43:23 GMT -5
I know that I would probably go down to the White House, storm into the president's office and slap him in the face if Americans...if pretty much anyone started to play God. (speaking of which, I've been promoted to God with my posts!)
I can understand what you're saying Whyte. Heaven forbid if I got raped and got pregnant I would probably be so depressed I'd think about suicide. But my mom and dad would probably be like "HECK NO!" if I said I wanted an abortion. (Spiritual, physical, mental, and financial reasons all apply) But the more I would think about it I would probably be like, "Hey, if I abort this baby, I'm worse than the guy who did this to me. At least I wasn't murdered." I would truly feel like a murderer. In fact last year there was a rape and abduction about 15 miles from my town and I told myself, "If I ever got pregnant like that I would have the baby, go to the prison, shove my baby into the guy's arms and say 'You don't deserve to be a father to this kid' then there'd be like an awkward silence and I'd say 'But, you can hold him/her if you want to.' "
tahts just how my strange heart and mind work together though.
I love kids. That's probably my main reason not to have an abortion though.
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Post by InsanexBandit on Feb 27, 2006 19:41:33 GMT -5
Hey, if I abort this baby, I'm worse than the guy who did this to me. At least I wasn't murdered." I would truly feel like a murderer. Well I guess I'm pro-choice.
An abortion doesn't occur on babies. It occurs on a clutter of cells that's beginning to develop. If it happened on a baby then it would be illegal. But it doesn't, so it's not murder.
If the conception was an accident, why not just get an abortion and not have to deal with all the problems it might cause?
I loved the Island. Was totally cool. I'm cold. And Raptor, your baby jokes made me laugh XD.
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Post by Mullet Fish on Feb 27, 2006 21:21:35 GMT -5
Please! Stop with the dead baby jokes. Of course abortion is murder! Once you pull a Peer to Teen Behavior you're stuck with a live baby. You abort, you kill it. Its kind of sickening if you think about getting arms and legs pulled out of your body *shivers* Raven is definitely a devout Catholic 0.o Whoa. That's the first time I've used one of those. I'm going to tell all of you something; YOU ALL WILL HAVE AT LEAST ONE KID. I bet you will. Come back to me in ten years. How old are your children? Almost 7, Raven! Thsoe dead baby jokes disgust me. And thats not just because my brother is still practically a baby. Well...that has something to do with it. I don't think I'm ever going to have kids. Nor will I probably ever get married. Okay, married maybe. Kids, never. Not only are they financially devastating, waking up at anywhere between 2 and 4 each morning to change the baby or something has never really appealed to me. Plus there's the pregnancy, with the morning sickness and the mood swings and the birth which is oh so icky! During sex ed. last year we watched a video of a childbirth. It was so gnarly. There was no sound, but if there had been it would have gone something like "Schplwahk." It was not pleasant, although watching a room full of guys squirm uncomfortably IS funny. If I were to get a girl pregnant, I would let her decide what to do with the baby, and support her either way. Okay, this'll probably make Whyte put a *viewer discretion advised* thing in the title. XD Brad you old dog, you have got to watch your tongue.
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Post by Ravenmaster on Feb 27, 2006 21:52:44 GMT -5
....don't EVER call me Catholic....just...no. >_< I'm just plain old Christian.
Technically, Insanity, you can abort a baby if it is over 2 months and under 5 months old. I think that's how it works. I have this weird teen bible that has a comic thing about abortion in it and the nurse is all like "But ther are arms and legs in the trash we throw out!!!" So its not just a cluster of cells. And even if it is I still think its murder. What do those cells grow up to be? A baby. Duh.
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Post by InsanexBandit on Feb 27, 2006 22:55:02 GMT -5
....don't EVER call me Catholic....just...no. >_< I'm just plain old Christian. Technically, Insanity, you can abort a baby if it is over 2 months and under 5 months old. I think that's how it works. I have this weird teen bible that has a comic thing about abortion in it and the nurse is all like "But ther are arms and legs in the trash we throw out!!!" So its not just a cluster of cells. And even if it is I still think its murder. What do those cells grow up to be? A baby. Duh.
But that's like saying a child should be treated like an adult. Just because they'll grow up to be one. I saw that in "Family Life" which is basically sex Ed I guess. This girl was giving birth and there were all these...nasty gooey liquids and they sucked them out with a turkey baster. It was blah.
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Post by Ravenmaster on Feb 27, 2006 23:51:38 GMT -5
..........ewww!
Children are children, there are steps to be taken but its still human life, dangit.
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Post by InsanexBandit on Feb 28, 2006 22:55:13 GMT -5
But a fetus isn't a human. There's a certain line that has to be drawn between human and a developing human.
Yeah, it was really eww. It WAS fun watching people go shudder and get grossed out.
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Post by Ravenmaster on Feb 28, 2006 23:00:36 GMT -5
Its still life!!!
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Post by raptor-chick on Mar 1, 2006 12:45:41 GMT -5
I sorry Raven! *runs from balony onslaught* I too agree that abortion should be a matter of choice in certain situations, like rape or because the mother is far too young or where it could kill the mother. ...Wait... Raven is god... She has lightening bolts...*ducks into a hole*
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Post by Ravenmaster on Mar 1, 2006 17:17:17 GMT -5
*thorws lighting bolts everywhere* MUAHAHAHAHA!!!
*ahem* Yeah, I didn't think about that. If the baby could kill the mother, that would be a point where abortion might be necessary. If the baby will die anyway, abortion probably seems the most likely choice to save the mother. But if the baby has a good chance of living then it would be really hard.
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Post by InsanexBandit on Mar 1, 2006 18:32:30 GMT -5
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Post by Ravenmaster on Mar 1, 2006 18:59:16 GMT -5
.....is so
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